VN Ren'Py Nephilim [v0.5.3] [BuuPlays]

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jadepaladin

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Dessolos said:
I didn't mind the Alice scene as much as others. I didn't see the big deal how she was sleeping with Eliza in a medieval / fantasy society especially from a commoner . Be a different story if Eliza was a princess or Queen or it was a modern day setting. . As I imagine alot do sleep naked so probably seems normal and probably something they don't bat an eye at.

I actually blame both the MC and Alice in this scene. For how I saw it didn't feel like she was sleeping naked to seduce the MC. Then with the MC getting naked and jumping in bed is where I do shift blame towards him , as he has to know it sends mix signals to else especially because she has had an unhealthy crush and obsession over him. Where I do blame Alice is when they are in the bed together and she lacks any self control , with asking the MC about sleeping ontop of him and a potential date in the future.
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I was actually going to replay this after I finish with my current VN and speed run through it looking for some things and this was one of the scenes I was going to return to and and pay attention because I just remember being weirded out by it at first. I have no qualms about her wanting to sleep next to Eliza, or be naked. My concern comes into the timing of their serious talk about their feelings when Eliza's injury was still fresh. It's comedically bad timing. I'm hoping a fresh take gives me an updated opinion on it.
 
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jadepaladin said:
I was actually going to replay this after I finish with my current VN and speed run through it looking for some things and this was one of the scenes I was going to return to and and pay attention because I just remember being weirded out by it at first. I have no qualms about her wanting to sleep next to Eliza, or be naked. My concern comes into the timing of their serious talk about their feelings when Eliza's injury was still fresh. It's comedically bad timing. I'm hoping a fresh take gives me an updated opinion on it.
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But it definitely makes Alice look bad when the MC is like "No! WTF is wrong with you? I know we had fun playing adventurers when we were 10 but you really need to move on." Ok ... that's just what he said in my mind, but it still makes Alice look bad if you shoot her down in that moment.
 
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Pixillin' said:
As someone who doesn't like Pearl, or Kira or Diana(? - the new one) and doesn't think any of the other Li's are worth spending a night away from Eliza for ... you are correct about this update.
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What you talking about? For me Kira the best girl damn, but that's my opinion i really liked eliza from the beginning but after that trip when we meet kira wow she is just something else
 
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Taco Con Salsa said:
What you talking about? For me Kira the best girl damn, but that's my opinion i really liked eliza from the beginning but after that trip when we meet kira wow she is just something else
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No, not me. Eliza is still the only one I like (not just as a Li - I dislike all of the others, even as friends) and I would have killed Kira and Pearl if I'd been allowed. I definitely wouldn't have come to their rescue.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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That's funny because I don't like Eliza or Alice. One felt like they're entitled to a relationship and the other is so clingy, you'd think they were married already. It's honestly written so poorly in the beginning. And it's not like I didn't understand the devs intention. You're clearly not supposed to avoid them, but that just makes the dialogue and such look awkward with the option to do it there.
 
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DrakoGhoul said:
That's funny because I don't like Eliza or Alice. One felt like they're entitled to a relationship and the other is so clingy, you'd think they were married already. It's honestly written so poorly in the beginning. And it's not like I didn't understand the devs intention. You're clearly not supposed to avoid them, but that just makes the dialogue and such look awkward with the option to do it there.
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I would have preferred if it was like Between Two Worlds, or the Seven Realms with Eliza as the Hannah / Leyala - always there but with sometimes other opportunities as well. (I wouldn't have taken those opportunities but still ... they could be there.) Edit: I understand what you mean about the writing though - I've shot down every other Li and am officially locked on the friendship path with 5 of them but they all still talk about MC like he's their one and only.)
 
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Pixillin' said:
I would have preferred if it was like Between Two Worlds, or the Seven Realms with Eliza as the Hannah / Leyala - always there but with sometimes other opportunities as well. (I wouldn't have taken those opportunities but still ... they could be there.)
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This approach has its ups and downs. The perfect solution would be if the player could chose the main LI but this would require WAY too much branching for a avn developer at the moment.

I dont like between two worlds because i dont really like hannah, dooms the whole avn for me. Leyala is only mid to me which reduces the fun from seven realms too

I would like it here but thats just because i really like eliza :love:
 
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Pixillin' said:
I would have preferred if it was like Between Two Worlds, or the Seven Realms with Eliza as the Hannah / Leyala - always there but with sometimes other opportunities as well. (I wouldn't have taken those opportunities but still ... they could be there.) Edit: I understand what you mean about the writing though - I've shot down every other Li and am officially locked on the friendship path with 5 of them but they all still talk about MC like he's their one and only.)
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I don't like how Leyala was done though, so Eliza having a forced mechanism like a bond would've probably made it worse. The dev should've just wrote Eliza as MC wife from the start or girlfriend. Or just removed the choice to reject her altogether.

By the way, Kali best girl in Seven Realms.
 
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Krytax123 said:
This approach has its ups and downs. The perfect solution would be if the player could chose the main LI but this would require WAY too much branching for a avn developer at the moment.

I dont like between two worlds because i dont really like hannah, dooms the whole avn for me. Leyala is only mid to me which reduces the fun from seven realms too

I would like it here but thats just because i really like eliza :love:
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I like Hannah and Leyala - but more generally, for story focused AVNs (rather than porn focused) I think getting the romance/dating part out of the way right out of the gate, it allows the Dev to then go ahead and tell their story. Finding opportunities to stick in a lewd scene is easy because you have your main Li - all you have to do is go to bed at night, so there is no weird maneuvering to put you in a situation where you can have sex. In this one, how much time has been devoted to introducing you to new Lis and finding opportunities for you to win them over and then have sex with them, when most of that time could have just been spent telling the story. And again, it becomes especially awkward if you then reject them all.
 
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DrakoGhoul said:
I don't like how Leyala was done though, so Eliza having a forced mechanism like a bond would've probably made it worse. The dev should've just wrote Eliza as MC wife from the start or girlfriend. Or just removed the choice to reject her altogether.

By the way, Kali best girl in Seven Realms.
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The great thing about this story is the development of the MC and Eliza's relationship. If they had been married straight off, it robs the VN of the best part IMO. MC and Eliza's growing relationship makes the story for me.

PS Layala and Kali for me, I can't choose between them yet. Put them up against Eliza and Eliza wins hands down. Just sayin.
 
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