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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Mark Topal Gökceli (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Mark Topal Gökceli should be considered for deletion due to insufficient independent sources that establish his notability and impact in the field. Additionally, the article mostly focuses on recent positions and roles without providing any significant achievements or widespread recognition, making it lack depth and relevance. 多少 战场 龙 (talk) 07:51, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. asilvering (talk) 03:48, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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Appears to be an original WP:NEOlogism. None of the cited sources use the term "light train" as defined in the article, and there do not appear to be other sources that describe the term as such. It appears to combine two separate concepts: lightweight trains from the mid-20th century, and a unrelated variety of trains in operation in Europe which are not permitted for regular operation in the United States. Sub31k (talk) 15:20, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. There's probably room for an article about the mid-20th-century lightweight trains as a split from streamliner, but this seems to be original research connecting that with modern rolling stock. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:58, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Talk:Light train#Neologism didn't clear matters up at all. The term may be used in Dutch (Dutch: Lichtgewichttrein), but I'm unaware of a corresponding concept in English or German. Compare the articles in the different-language Wikipedias for BLS RABe 525. The French article fr:Système ferroviaire léger isn't about the same concept at all, but rather about light rail networks in general. That's the result of this edit on Wikidata from 2024. Not our problem, but worth considering if there's a better match. Mackensen (talk) 21:04, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: the French article fr:Système ferroviaire léger does not even mention the French translation for "light rail" once.
- KatVanHuis (talk) 21:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I previously ran into this in New Page Patrol and was unsure as to how to handle it. From reading the talk page discussion, it seems this is indeed a neologism and should be deleted absent clear evidence there is such a term. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:23, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Trainsandotherthings, since your vote here, I've added more sources to the article. What kind of evidence would be sufficient in your opinion? KatVanHuis (talk) 16:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- You have failed to persuade me that this is a real term. I stand by my previous comments. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:09, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Trainsandotherthings, since your vote here, I've added more sources to the article. What kind of evidence would be sufficient in your opinion? KatVanHuis (talk) 16:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: the term "light train" has been replaced by the term "light-weight train" which appears in sources. This 1001 pages German report alone lists a few dozens of publications on "light-weight train" design, in English as well as in other languages, showing it's a subject found in many sources. KatVanHuis (talk) 10:27, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. That being said, I think part of this article's content might be worth including in other articles, perhaps Multiple unit, but adopting lighter materials is a universal concept everywhere. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 18:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello XtraJovial, even if adopting lighter materials may be a universal concept now, the popularity was limited prior to the 1990s, indeed except for the 1930s when it was shortly trending. Not all "light-weight trains" are multiple units and not all multiple units are light-weight, like this one. A "multiple" unit is a type of consist; a "light-weight train" is a an engineering practise. KatVanHuis (talk) 17:14, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom and the others. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 19:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Some aspects of the article may be worth integrating into existing pages, where they can be properly contextualized. Further, the creator seems to have a pattern of creating articles designed to push relatively unknown transit terms into broader usage - see Talk:Semi-metro for another example that has been frequently disputed. Akpqegoj (talk) 21:30, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Most if not all of the examples listed already fit the definition (and link to) Semi-metro or Hybrid rail Ottawatransitguy (talk) 00:28, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per the thoughtful conversation at Talk:Light train#Neologism. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 12:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, per the nomination and others. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 15:05, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Question: does the existence of Template:Lightweight Trains help to show that the grouping of "light-weight trains" is notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KatVanHuis (talk • contribs) 20:16, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Thryduulf, a few days ago you wrote:
This needs more investigation, as while I'm not sure the terminology is correct it appears the concept is notable.
I was wondering: have you had the time to do some more investigation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KatVanHuis (talk • contribs) 07:53, 6 April 2025 (UTC) - Delete per nominator. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:07, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- 2025 Brooklyn Park TBM-700 crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article was WP:TOOSOON and the creator has a history of making articles too soon. I only made it cause there was a proposed deletion warning and as of now though, there is more information and no survivors, which might make it be able to stay. If the pilot is the only occupant though, we should delete the article. -Bloxzge 025 ツ — Preceding undated comment added 04:11, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think we should wait and see with more information if this is going to be significant or not.Lucthedog2 (talk) 02:22, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
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- •Delete per WP:NOTNEWS, single fatality incident as confirmed by emergency responders on scene, see ASN database for updated narrative. A crash in a highly populated area does not make such crash notable as we shouldnt base articles of what coulda or woulda happened. ASN Database Lolzer3k 14:47, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep This is just like the Learjet fiasco that happened in Philadelphia, A plane crashed into a highly populated area mind you, just like the learjet in Philly. The page still needs to be updated with info, and needs to be currently updated, as an investigation into this crash is currently going on. I also agree with the people claiming that this article is "too soon" but just like the learjet crash, an investigation is going on. Shaneapickle (talk) 16:51, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's not just like the Philadelphia crash though as the plane was a medical jet with six occupants including a pediatric kid. It also crashed in a populated area but with a fatality and dozens of injuries. Also, with every plane crash there's an investigation, so that's not a reason to keep it. Plane crashes with a single fatality happen everyday, populated area or not, without articles. This one is no exception. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 23:32, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- •Note above arguement by user Shaniapickle seems to be a case of WP:OSE, invalidating their vote. Lolzer3k 14:43, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete because this was not an important crash in any sense after all. Lucthedog2 (talk) 19:20, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
I agree since there were no survivors out of the plane that has a capacity of about 7. I only started this when the article was WP:TOOSOON and when a proposed deletion nomination was posted.
- Delete. Aviation accidents and incidents keep happening (https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/monthly.aspx) and a fair proportion get reported on some news. The entries that do deserve articles are those which are landmark and follow in radical safety procedure or technology changes (e.g. UA232, or read https://flightsafety.org/asw-article/inadequacies-and-a-misunderstanding/ etc). Waiting with a non-notable article promotes speculations which I feel unhealthy same as explained eg at https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2020/april/pilot/safety-spotlight-lessons-from-tragedy BACbKA (talk) 10:45, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - WP:NOTTOOSOON. Coverage by independent news sources. The fact that aviation incidents keep happening and reported on does not negate its notability. — ERcheck (talk) 13:17, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- National level news coverage, including CNN and ABC News. — ERcheck (talk) 14:43, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- It was WP:TOOSOON as the creator made the article within an hour of the crash. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 23:34, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per @ERcheck
- Delete: run-of-the-mill light aircraft crash, fails WP:EVENT and in particular WP:EVENTCRIT #4. Also WP:TOOSOON, though of course WP:USUAL caveats apply in the unlikely event that this turns out to have WP:LASTING effects or WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE beyond the initial news cycle. Rosbif73 (talk) 06:51, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. only 1 death. 125.227.26.172 (talk) 02:51, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, only news coverage, no secondary analysis. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 01:16, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:24, 6 April 2025 (UTC)- .Delete this should be deleted because the news about it is dwindling. Lucthedog2 (talk) 15:20, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete No news about this crash since the day of the crash, fails WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ROTM. Protoeus (talk) 17:22, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Anoka County–Blaine Airport, the flight's ultimate destination, where short mention should be made as is usually done with aviation incidents. Nathannah • 📮 18:30, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Very little coverage has been made on it in the past few days and it has been dwindling. ✶Quxyz✶ 22:03, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete run of the mill news story with no secondary coverage. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:27, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Anoka County–Blaine Airport. Run of the mill accident so not worthy of a standalone article, but can be mentioned at the article for the airport. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:50, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:08, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also Inc. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Brand-new startup, spun off from Rivian Automotive just two days ago. All coverage is just about Rivian announcing the spinoff. No sign it meets WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Better off as a section in Rivian Automotive for now. Junbeesh (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete I agree with Junbeesh. Thus far the information available that I can find is simply an announcement of a spin off. For now, sources read like coverage of an event with little detailed information about Also, Inc which makes sense given there is little info beyond its focus on electric "micromobility". A (sub)section under Rivian would be enough for now.
- Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 11:36, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I agree, no WP:SIGCOV so fails WP:GNG. ScrabbleTiles (talk) 12:07, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- There is a wealth of significant and reliable information available. A simple Google search will reveal that. Cinaroot (talk) 02:28, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep it cannot be a section of Rivian because its entirely a new company. It has its own website, mission and planned product launches Cinaroot (talk) 15:16, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – The company does not yet have enough news coverage. References are all announcements, press releases, etc.Mysecretgarden (talk) 08:16, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – unnotable and promotional. . . Mean as custard (talk) 14:05, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:29, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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No WP:SIGCOV, fails WP:NCORP. ProtobowlAddict talk! 22:58, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Agree with Protobowl above. Lacks WP:SIGCOV XwycP3 (talk) 02:53, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Nothing that meets WP:ORGCRIT in Google News, Google Search, or Google Books. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:46, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails notability criteria for reasons already mentioned. silviaASH (inquire within) 07:37, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Delete: Fails WP:NCORP and WP:SIGCOV due to a lack of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources, which a Google search did not reveal. There's no clear evidence of a lasting impact on the industry. If reliable sources are found, the article could be improved; otherwise, deletion seems appropriate. PriyasVP (talk) 09:08, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Delete: Agree with lack of notability, based primarily on lack of evidence of sources beyond company website (which gives no indication of when it was designed). In theory, the article could see work with the right source content, but it has essentially remained in limbo for 20 years now. -SteveCof00 (talk) 10:09, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Not well sourced. May be better as draft for the time being. Or just deleted since it does not look notable. Ramos1990 (talk)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:30, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- RodBez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP as the sources only provide trivial coverage, primarily comprising recycled press releases and fundraising notices. Yuvaank (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: The article does not meet the criteria outlined in WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. While RodBez has received some media attention, much of it focuses on the founders' personal stories and their appearance on Shark Tank India, rather than providing in-depth, independent coverage of the company's operations or impact.Pridemanty (talk) 11:54, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: No significant coverage. silviaASH (inquire within) 09:21, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Page fails WP:NCORP. Poor sources with no significant coverage. This article does not have any beneficial contribution and does not warrant significant notability. RangersRus (talk) 18:50, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Insufficient coverage by independent, reliable secondary sources to pass WP:GNG and WP:NCORP.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:27, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Not notable and reads like a promotion of rthe company. Sourcing don't look good too. Ramos1990 (talk) 22:32, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:42, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
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Irish railway station that fails WP:GNG. No reliable and in-depth sources found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 17:42, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep (albeit a "weak" keep). Or, failing that, merge/redirect to County Donegal Railways Joint Committee or Donegal Railway Company. While I understand the nom, and (per WP:RAILOUTCOMES and WP:NTRAINSTATION) not every train station is inherently notable, my own WP:BEFORE has identified enough sources to expand the article beyond a sub-stub. And, perhaps, to suggest at least a hint of independent notability. Whatever the case, outright deletion wouldn't seem appropriate here (given possible WP:ATDs). Personally I'd lean towards "keep" (of a standalone title).... Guliolopez (talk) 10:13, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Enough has been written about every railway station in the British Isles to meet WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:11, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Article has been improved with additional sourcing. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 23:44, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. If anyone wants the content moved to user or draft space, pending finding sources, please let me know. (Alternatively, we could get EEng to retarget the term as being somebody who clings around the discussions at Requests for adminship like a limpet or some other mollusc.) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- RFA Mollusc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable salvage vessel. I am unable to find significant coverage in reliable secondary sources (basically all I get is historicalrfa.uk which even if it met all the criteria for SIGCOV, which I am uncertain on, is only one source). I tagged this for notability a week ago, but the author simply reverted the tag without comment and declined to improve the article any further, leaving me with no choice but AfD. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:19, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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Also noting that an attempt to draftify on March 1 was promptly reverted without comment by the article's author. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:22, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – I am unable to find any sources myself, but I'm hesitant to support deletion just yet because so many navy vessels do turn out to be notable. If anyone can access The Times archives, which I do not have access to, that might be a good place to check. I thought RFA Belgol wasn't notable, but it turned out to have sufficient coverage in The Times and at the Historical RFA website. PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke) 03:23, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment - article creator is a new editor. As well as the Historical RFA website used as a reference (from which the article can be expanded greatly), there is also Clydesite. The Times draws a blank this time. Mjroots (talk) 12:14, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Does Historical RFA meet our requirements for a reliable source? I've looked it over and can't find any sort of "about us" beyond two people listed as consultants. A trip to rfaa.uk is more promising, but I'm still not getting a clear sense of who their authors are and if the website counts as a reliable source. Forgive me, I am not shipsandotherthings so I'm not as familiar with sourcing in this area.
- If this were a warship, I'd probably have left it in the NPP queue, but a salvage vessel doesn't seem to have automatic notability. Perhaps there's a list article it could be merged to somewhere? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:29, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Trainsandotherthings: - Given the detail of entries consistently across the site, I'd say yes. However, I'm not a MILHIST expert, it just happens that some ships have MILHIST connections. I'll ask over there, see what the experts say. Mjroots (talk) 06:39, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – Having had a look around the usual sources I agree that it is going to be difficult to prove notability for Mollusc. The Historical RFA page is more a list of seaman deaths plus two lines on the salvaging of some items from Falmouth than in depth coverage. Clydeships prove the ship existed but is not much more than a database entry. I think any evidence of notability will come from her later service as Yantlet, especially with mention of this 1667 Dutch warship and the possibility of work during the Second World War. I'm no expert on civil ship service so with have to leave it to others to prove or disprove. Looking at some definitely not reliable sources, it appears Mollusc may have originally been the name ship of the Trinculo-class mooring vessels. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 13:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as no one but the nominator has actually cast a "vote" here yet. I'd also like to get this discussion a bit more time in case an editor knowledgeable about ships and shipping can propose an ATD. Too bad there isn't a deletion sort for "ships".
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:09, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - As I've shown above, sufficient sources exist to enable an article of at least start level to be written. As we all know, that an article needs improvement is never a reason to delete it. Mjroots (talk) 11:21, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yet again, I'm attacked for daring to participate in NPP and bringing an article I could not find sufficient sources on to AfD. I'm extremely tired of this consistently poor treatment. I've improved many a poor quality article, and even saved several from deletion; I do not need a lecture on the subject, from you or from anyone else. You've identified exactly 1 additional source, which is simply a database with statistics and almost no prose at all, and then gone on a high horse about how it's so evil that anyone dare nominate an article for deletion. Not everyone is an expert in ships, and not everyone has the exact same interpretation of GNG. I did a standard BEFORE search before creating this nomination, as I always do. I don't understand why you have suddenly decided to implicitly accuse me of misconduct when we were having a perfectly civil discussion regarding the article previously. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – I repeated my search for sources and still haven't found significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Even assuming historicalrfa checks all the boxes (and its records are not, as it warns, "extremely sketchy"), a second source has yet to be found. I say that because I do not think that clydeships has significant coverage. I don't know if it's reliable, but it does seem indiscriminate. To quote from the website itself: "This web site aims to present the vital information and the careers of all vessels built by the shipyards of Scotland" (emphasis mine). Not all of those tens of thousands of ships are notable enough for their own article, and in my subjective and non-expert opinion, there isn't enough in the RFA Mollusc's remarks section to prove notability. I would be happy to support an ATD if anyone can find one. PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke) 03:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I feel this may be useful in another page, but not sure where. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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The result was merge into either a new list article, or a sub-section of All American Racers. In any case, most editors expressed the view that redirecting and merging was an alternative to outright deletion. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:10, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Eagle 987 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable racecar that ran in one race series. No secondary sourcing in the article, nor could I find any online from a basic search. Initially tagged this for single source and not meeting GNG, and an editor responded by adding two database entries that don't say a word about the car. The article calls it "entirely unsuccessful" though the sole source that says anything about the car (from its manufacturer, so both primary and non-independent) doesn't even support that. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 22:24, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
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- A couple of things, if you look at the sources i added, they are for the results, and 12th wasn't in the points for the series, so as I stated, it was unsuccessful, regardless of what Eagle had to say about the matter. Vantage-TWR (talk) 23:36, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as it stands, it's a clear GNG failure, but there is a potential alternative to deletion here if sources can improve - merging this with Eagle 997 and then adding other Eagle products to List of chasses made by Eagle or something similar. SportingFlyer T·C 09:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wouldnt the creation of that list require also the deletion of all the other cars in Category:Eagle racing cars though? Vantage-TWR (talk) 22:17, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Those can be taken to their own individual AFDs if you see fit. The topic of this discussion is the Eagle 987. Frank Anchor 02:12, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wouldnt the creation of that list require also the deletion of all the other cars in Category:Eagle racing cars though? Vantage-TWR (talk) 22:17, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Currently fails GNG but redirecting it to Eagle 997 and adding to suggested list by SportingFlyer would be best course here. Nyasalones (talk) 13:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect and possible selective merge per SportingFlyer. Fails GNG due to lacking the SIGCOV needed for a standalone article. Frank Anchor 14:46, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I hope the participants arguing for Deletion can be more clear in what they are arguing for because you are also stating that you are for a Redirection and/or Merge. There can only be one outcome so please don't give a closer different options.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC)- i personally think that a list should be made of the Eagle indy/champ car chassis, then this and the other Eagle cars will be redirected to said list Vantage-TWR (talk) 23:36, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have no objection to this suggestion. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:22, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- then just make some bare bones list, and the current pages can be dumped onto the new page Vantage-TWR (talk) 00:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have no objection to this suggestion. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:22, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- i personally think that a list should be made of the Eagle indy/champ car chassis, then this and the other Eagle cars will be redirected to said list Vantage-TWR (talk) 23:36, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment Is creating a new subheading under All American Racers#USAC & CART Champ Car for race cars an option here? The other two individual race car articles at this time period (Eagle MK-V and Eagle 997) are arguably non-notable, too. If so, I would support a merge & redirect to the All American Racers USAC & CART Champ car section (if it is made), per SportingFlyer and FrankAnchor. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 21:08, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - CART was a pretty major series at this point in time, but it's long enough ago that sources won't necessarily be readily available online. I strongly suspect that this would pass WP:GNG if offline sources were taken into account, but without knowing how or where to access said sources I can't vote to keep in good faith. If Racer have any archives that might be a good place to start, alongside period editions of Autocourse and Autosport. I'm not really that familiar with the US motorsport publishing landscape though, so there may be some fairly obvious sources I'm missing that could potentially contain significant coverage of this racing car. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
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- CJ Darcl Logistics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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lacks sufficient coverage from independent, reliable sources, failing to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. If the article primarily relies on self-published sources or promotional content, it would violate Wikipedia’s neutrality and verifiability standards. Welcome to Pandora (talk) 14:32, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Hey Pandora! I have made changes in the article. Adityasharma0701 (talk) 10:33, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Weak keep – I am not an expert in analyzing Indian sources, but the company seems to have the minimum notability for an article ([1], [2], [3]). If there is promotional content, it should be removed without prejudice to the existence of the article as a whole (WP:DINC). Svartner (talk) 01:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadspike [Talk] 10:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Highly promotional article.
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Most of the references are just press releases or announcements. the coverage is typical sponsored churnalism lacking WP:CORPDEPTH. Bakhtar40 (talk) 18:19, 1 April 2025 (UTC) - Delete: References are press releases, announcements and churnalism. The article sounds promotional and has many sections that are unnecessary.Mysecretgarden (talk) 19:10, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Based on the recent changes, I believe the article follows the wikipedia guidelines with adequate information.Thanks!Rachitmisr (talk) 11:54, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep article needs work but the subject fulfills Wikipedia's notability requirements as per WP:ORG and has been updated since the nomination as per WP:HEYNayyn (talk) 13:42, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. It looks like the improvements to this article involved the removal of inappropriate content, not the addition of new sources.
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