User:Javaweb/garten

From WP:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive121#ina_garten

== Ina Garten ==

Javaweb refusal to include factual information, i.e. Garten's refusal to meet with Make A Wish child is based solely on personal opinion and not on the regulations of wikipedia (see discussion page); therefore, the page should be edited to include the stories widely reported re: Make A Wish. This is NOT a fan page and should not be regulated by someone who clearly has a personal interest in presenting only flattering or what they perceive as "neutral facts" about this person User:76.205.78.155 04:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

My advise would be to reword your paragraph to minimize any inadvertent editorializing. Wikipedia should report that people have criticized Garten, but it itself should not criticize her, even in the tone of how it reports events. User:Gamaliel 06:31, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Concensus on the talk page seems to be not to include it at all - it seems to be very much a manufactured gossip-rag type of "controversy", rather than an event that reputable sources see as significant to Garten's career or notability. --User:Demiurge1000 07:07, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

It is not encyclopedic or noteworthy that a person doesn't do something. Every person doesn't do countless things. There are only 24 hours in a day and a limited number of years in a person's life. I see no need to mention this whipped-up controversy in our bio of Ina Garten User:Cullen328" 08:09, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

If that is the case, then I would also advise the IP editor to discuss the matter there. I was only attempting to assist what appears to be a new editor with issues of BLP compliance, not take sides in a content dispute. Those here who wish to discuss the matter of inclusion should also join the talk page discussion. User:Gamaliel

The following editors with actual user names and edits outside of just <a href="/wiki/Ina_Garten" title="Ina Garten">Ina Garten</a> are part of this consensus:

• <a href="/wiki/User:Freshacconci" title="User:Freshacconci">User:Freshacconci</a>
• <a href="/wiki/User:Zenswashbuckler" title="User:Zenswashbuckler">User:Zenswashbuckler</a>
• <a href="/wiki/User:Ale_jrb" title="User:Ale jrb">User:Ale_jrb</a>
• <a href="/wiki/User:Aecamadi" title="User:Aecamadi">User:Aecamadi</a>
• <a href="/wiki/User:Demiurge1000" title="User:Demiurge1000">User:Demiurge1000</a>
• <a href="/wiki/User:Javaweb" title="User:Javaweb">User:Javaweb</a>

You can see their edits/discussions on the article page or talk page. I am not a fan of Ina Garten. I am a fan of reliable sources that do not manipulate their reporting to make a mundane incident into a story. You can see the discussion here and [[Talk:Ina_Garten#Seriously_Ill_Boy.27s_Mom_says_.22STOP_THE_MADNESS.22|here]Anonymous IP 76.205.78.155, I do not see even one word from you on the discussion page. The discussion page is the first place to discuss, not here. If you have answers to our concerns, please provide them there.
She is a 63 year-old lady with a show and books to produce and, according to your reference, gets about 100 requests/month. She helped out Make-a-wish before. It is physically impossible for anyone on a TV network available to tens of millions on basic cable to fulfill every request made of them. To berate them for, in the words of Make-a-Wish, not doing the impossible and not fulfilling all worthwhile charities's every request, is an unrealistic expectation. It is not notable because that is true of practically everyone in Wikipedia whose name does not begin with "Saint". --[[User:Javaweb 09:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)Javaweb